The present is holy ground.
There is nothing but the present.
There is nothing but holy ground
as we walk on it as Presence.
If I was given just a short space of time to impart what I feel
– ’tis most important – it again comes back to this thing:
If you were not,
the world would not be;
as far as you are concerned.
We are all experiencing a very unique world!
A world shaped by conditioning, identity, belief, habits, traditions…
But each one in a very unique way; is experiencing.
So the world that you see,
is a unique world picture
shaped in your own consciousness.
And if you are at the heart of your world,
and you really are clear within your self,
you can begin to change it;
if you wish to spend time.
But I would say
the most important thing
is to know who you are.
When you know who you are,
your world is changing automatically.
If you go out wanting to change things,
then you become an entity wanting to do something.
The blessing that comes from the Self,
shines upon everything.
If somebody is asking for help, for prayers or something,
then the prayer that goes out is not a particular…
“Oh,” you know, “this is George… I want to pray for George…”
Yes, it can be this.
“Let goodwill happen there!
I send goodwill there;
to everything there!”
I don’t have to get personal at all.
And that energy goes there.
So, you remember
that whatever it is that’s coming up
–either inside the body energetically, or
in the mind as thoughts and feelings,
or whatever, no?–
Don’t try and stop them.
Your duty is not to just stop them,
but to use them to remember
that you are the witness of them.
And that if you pay attention to the witness,
rather than the things that are being witnessed,
you will change the vibration of them.
Because they have come,
they must somehow serve the witness.
And the witnessing of them… witnessing of them…
At first we are looking at the thing, because it’s what everyone is doing in the world. This is at the heart of all our… –what do you call these things now… Facebook… and all this kind of stuff, and all, you know…– everything is about what the person is thinking and feeling. And it’s all external. And all unreliable. And very unfair, actually. Okay? So we are all reporting what we are seeing and what we think… and all la la la la la…
But we’re never reporting, you know,
“But wait a second; I am speaking like that because, you know,
I just broke up with my family, or my partner”,
and so on and so forth…
“So that is part of what I am sharing with you about the world I’m seeing!”
The saying is,
“I’m not seeing the world as it really is;
I’m seeing the world as I am at this moment”.
So you are perceiving that, but now I ask you:
You who are perceiving
(this very perceiving itself –okay?– is taking place)
but That which is Perceiving itself,
That which is Perceiving…
What is That like?
Does the story live in the Perceiver?
you will begin to feel
and the impact of
what you are seeing
from the object of perception,
to the sense of the subject of perceiving.
The subject is more still… More quiet…
Then also, there is a change in the environment
and the climate becomes much more calm,
and more peaceful… Maybe agreeable…
But you still remember:
That also is perceived.
So when That
is also perceived…
By What is it perceived?
in the Wordless…
You’ve come back…
Your eyes and your seeing
have returned to their Source;
mind has come back to the Source.
Many people are researching many, many, many things! Their research is researching all kinds of things.
But you are here to research one thing!
And That is even closer than intimacy!
I don’t even want to say It’s close.
It’s not even near.
Who can research “Here”,
where even the researcher
gets absorbed in the discovery?
And neither the seeker,
nor the finder,
nor the thing found,
will exist There.
That sounds strange!
I’m just telling you how perfect it is!
You’re not going to die, physically,
but all that is not true in you,
will not accompany you.
Now, who is hearing me right now?
[Voices in sangha] Yes… Yes… Yes…
I’m looking at you guys on the screen too:
That which permeates every form in the universe…
known and unknown…
conscious or unconscious…
without Which nothing can exist
or even appear to exist…
where neither truth nor false could even manifest…
That which alone is effortlessly unchangingly perfect…
Which even the mind denying it,
appears in it…
and That which we should totally fall in love with,
until the duality of love merges in the Oneness itself,
Which is the same as true love,
Which is the same as pure awareness…
So this is not a pep talk, you know?
Not a… you know… a little “let’s fan the flames only”…
I’m only pointing to
That which cannot be achieved even!
By whom would it be achieved?
We can only wake up from a sleep
that we are other than This.
And we must be consistent in our waking up;
we must love the waking up,
but don’t be attached to waking up.
Don’t be attached to waking up!
[Looks at questioner who deeply gratefully looks at him.]
Leon transcribing Mooji
It was so good in India, what happened.
And two days it went like that, and… but I continued that… It’s…
I continued with meditation. Just good. It came when I just sit silently, I sit contemplating, just sit simple that… just with attention to the self.
Everything will just settle down. It’s natural for the mind to come up like that, no?
Something that… last time for me was like miracle… –but today, it’s still continuing– and then after two days… First time I saw that attention goes back, and it’s normal… It just stayed like that, today! It stayed!
It’s good for us, because our mind, it cannot stay underneath too long; it has to come to the surface. That’s because of your own sadhana, your own satsang. It has to keep coming up at the surface. So it can feel a bit like that, but at least it’s more visible than hidden. So they come up like that, and then they just dissipate, it just goes away, dissipates…
But Mooji, you said, “You go on practicing, and attention can just stay, it just comes, comes, comes…”
Even more than that, I say even your idea before attention. You can watch where the attention is going. So if you can see that you can watch even attention, you must really try and understand: Where are you to watch attention? You are already to pace. You know, the attention can only come to you, or it can go out, towards phenomena. But really, when attention is here, it just returns to you; it’s not you… Very often, we… we identify with attention, but attention is also capable of observing. You know?
Because sometimes people can say, “My attention is very restless today”, and, “I can’t control my attention, it’s going all over the place…”
I say don’t worry! You are here! You are not going all over the place! The attention is going. If you pay attention to your self, which is really here, just acknowledge that you are already here.
That’s the more natural attention, to acknowledge that. You are already here.
You cannot be the attention running about. If you identify with that, then you feel restless; you take on the quality of restless attention.
But if you stay in the place where it is witnessed that the attention is going, don’t worry about that, just be with the stillness that is your self.
And that is so… so… powerful, because it doesn’t mean you have to go… If you are just with your self, attention has to come back to you. Because it cannot live without you. It’s like a parasite that cannot live without the thing it’s living on. So in a sense, all these forces have to come to you. If you acknowledge your self, know what you are, as just the pure awareness, the formless awareness somehow resting in itself, all your powers like attention, the body, belief, identity… all these have to come back to it. They come back and they become quiet. Very naturally.
But sometimes, there is some storm in the mind, in the bodymind,
and it’s going to move like that, and the way through it, is leave it!
Like Sri Maharaj says,
“I leave my human nature to play out its role.
I remain as I am. As pure consciousness.”
That’s a very clear seeing, who sees that human nature is behaving sometimes, you know, very irritable, sometimes this and that… He doesn’t identify with that, he says, “Somehow something is causing that to be, maybe past life, maybe old behavior, but I’m not concerned with that now, I am not identified with that state anymore. I don’t call that state ‘me’. I just continue, just resting inside my own awareness”.
So if he’s resting in his own awareness, that human side that’s running around, can’t do that for much longer, because it needs attention. If nobody’s looking at it… You see, the mind can only perform if it has an audience. If there’s no one to give it attention, then it doesn’t exist, you know? And the attention comes from you; even attention comes from you. So you’re not even the attention.
Observe these few points when really caught and remembered, because that’s what happens: we tend to forget where we really are.
Where you really are, is the Self.
That’s not moving.
When you remember that,
things like attention, goings on of the mind, behavior… don’t mean very much.
You see that they’re just phenomena… Soon forgotten… Soon pass… You know?
Just like any cloud keeps changing; nobody has to force them. Mm? So, it’s all good.
Now, whenever people talk about these things, they feel like,
“Oh, I’m not doing so well at the moment, because…”
Stop that! It’s not true, you know? Don’t judge yourself with your thoughts, you know? You’re not your thoughts! When they come, if you hold on to them, you create a relationship and an identity with them, and of course you’re gonna feel, “Oh, I’m not doing very well”, because no thought is doing particularly well, you know? They just… they keep changing… Even nice ones after a while, it goes into some silly place or something…
So, it’s good to be aware of thoughts, make use of them also,
but keep your royal distance from them.
Your self is not a thought.
That is one hundred percent sure.
But our self-belief… maybe thought construct is there.
So this difference we have to just keep recognizing, until the whole thing looks very silly after a while. So to keep watching it and seeing that it’s the one thing you have to overcome and to transcend in life, and that is your mind attachment, your belief in the mind. It’s only that to be overcome. The identity that is created in the mind, and the mind play.
You have to understand; that’s your ship; that’s your house. You have to understand how that mind works and how… and that without identity, it doesn’t have any power.
Once you understand that, and you see that you are neither of those two, that you are the witness of them, already the whole thing cannot hold and you find again your self. And it’s like one; one. One thing, more and more.
This is all. This is all now. Over the years of wrestling so much with different ideas about myself and so on and so forth, it became very simple:
Oh! All this was nonsense! It’s not true! My thoughts are not me. But my thoughts make me feel I am them. If I believe in them, I start to feel, Oh, you know, I’m having a bad day today, and so on and so on and so on.
A thought cannot have a bad day. It’s just the believer in the thought that can have a bad day. But the believer in the thought, is also kind of thought, you know? The believer in the thought, the one who says, Oh, I can’t get out of this state, please help me… That one is also a thought. It’s the most dangerous thought actually, because nobody suspects it is a thought. We all think it is us. And because we think it is us, our life becomes very unstable; unstable, and not steady. Because even that identity is not steady.
The only steady thing is the Self. Which is what we really are. And that’s all that satsang is here to really point out and to get everyone to see and to acknowledge. And it takes time, because we’ve been a bit a stranger to ourself for a very long time… being in the role of personhood and identity and so on. We’ve been under role for a very long time; wearing body after body; carrying this strong identification.
So I put it that this life is the life to finish all that; that delusion. Really is, and it’s a wonderful feeling… Hehehehe… And you’re well on your way! Well on the way; well on the way, well on the way…
Well, we feel very happy to see you today, and this coming up… So nice to see you back, and talk to you soon! Yeah, yeah, yeah, love you, love you, love you…
Mooji transcribed by Leon Hieros
Namaste, Father… [deeply moved]
Namaste to you [reflecting woman’s depth].
Thank you for calling me!
On the third day [of this Rishikesh open satsang season] something really dropped inside.
And it’s so clear. And just like you said, the storms came. Actually many storms came.
And ah… There was a lot of pain, a lot of grief… that came with it…
[Mooji looks so seriously, so beautifully deeply into her eyes…]
Ahm… But then, it was seen…
… that… it’s just thoughts. And… so then… some of that started to subside. And then… ahm… a lot of bodily pain started to come. And ahm… making it really hard for me to sit in satsang… Yesterday… ah… it was so strong I felt like I had to leave… But then, it was realized that even this was the mind. And ahm… so I thought [finding it a little hard to control her voice] No, I’m not leaving… I’m staying!
And ahm… shortly after, the pain started to subside. And I could see that the mind can do even this.
And… I ah… I don’t need to ask anything for myself, ’cause I feel that your grace is with me… But, ah… I just want to ask you for your grace for my husband. Because, ah… even though I know this is part of my thoughts, there’s something that my heart wants to ask. And… Just to help him… [clenching her fists in front of her chest]
He has a very strong mind, and [on the verge of tears]… he’s suffering a lot…
And, ahm… I just want to ask you for your grace, to… help him… to… just open his heart more…
[Mooji nods repeatedly, with deep, reverent compassion]
Thank you so much… I’m so grateful for…
[whispering in Namaste] I’m so grateful to you…
If someone has a stubborn mind… and ahm [looking very thoughtfully]… and is defending that… That is, if someone has a stubborn mind, set, and is defending that, at any cost… Ahm… Eh… [slightly, slowly nodding]
I’m not sure if I should interfere; with that; up to a point, no?
Ahm… Even though the consequence of that, is that it brings a suffering. But if the force is so strong, then it means already, Grace is taking care of it, because it can only come so far, before a change has to… [calmly joyfully] happen there. And ah… If you’re not one who’s waiting to see what happens, but is living in your Truth, then…
Because sometimes, if you are involved in it…
Perhaps the stubbornness is connected with your relationship also.
So it’s good sometimes to cut free from that,
pay attention to your own sense of Presence…
That’s not easy, necessarily [smilingly]…
… but if you understand what it means… Because sometimes in relationships, people are reacting to each other, in some kind of way, you know? Ah… And… it has been seen enough that that can happen, especially if you want the other person to change. And it can… just… be counterproductive in some way.
Of course you may want it in your heart, and you may feel, Woah, they could really benefit from being in satsang… But ahm… to what extent? You see?
There’s a saying,
“You must become the change you wish to see in the world.”
That you must become that change that you want to see happen in the world.
And then by example, and not by too much encouragement; because you can over-encourage, and put people off; “Woah! Give me a break! Back off!” and so on.
And… but… Live your Truth!
And even if it means
stepping away for a while, whatever…
Try and live your Truth…
… more than to try and change someone.
Even with the best of intentions,
and even with the best of feeling
that they would benefit from it…
We are free to be free,
and we are free to be bound.
So sometimes it can…
I say: Always I will wish you well.
Always I’ll wish the best for you.
In accordance with the will of Supreme.
I actually have seen that… ahm… this relationship has really pushed me deeper, and deeper, and deeper in satsang. And I’m so grateful…
I just feel this compassion in my heart, because I don’t wanna see him suffer…
[Both go into Namaste]
I love you…
Love you too.
Mooji (minutes 40-47) transcribed by Leon Hieros
The one who is wise, they say, live as though you have no rights, and no entitlement. Then what will happen: everything that comes to you, you appreciate. You don’t think, “Yes, this belongs to me!” You know? No! Nothing belongs to you. Not even you. Not even you, meaning not even the idea you have of yourself. Not even that is true, you see? When you live like this, you know, “I have no rights”, and so on, then something… immediately… some… humility… comes into your expression. And humility is beautiful because it opens the way for Grace to come. Because it won’t come; if you’re arrogant, Grace will not come to you. If you think you are special, she will not come to you. So, sometimes things like this can happen, you know, I’m talking to my sister at the moment [pointing to the woman in the audience standing in front of the microphone], and she’s coming like that, and it’s not easy, I understand, because somehow the mind will take that shape and say [angry look], “Look, he is… Look how they’re crowding him all the time, give him a break!” and so on. The mind is pretending to be compassionate. [Woman and audience laugh] But it’s not compassionate. That is not its purpose, for doing that. No! It’s purpose is to make you feel vexed, and “Yeah, why are you doing this and that… And to believe him… You must not believe him! I am not complaining…” You see? So, when somebody asked one saint, “What do you want?” he answered, “Whatever God gives. Bitter or sweet.” Because he has already prepared his mind, that whatever flavour comes, I will make use of it; the power of discernment will make use of it. So when you say that you feel sometimes there’s arrogance coming, it’s not yours, you see? Mind has tricked you for a long time, to make you feel, “You have the right! You have a right to be angry! You have a right to be like this!” And, you see, who is it speaking to also? It is speaking to: the idea you have of who you are. Because he cannot speak to your true Self. But you don’t know that yet. So we are vulnerable to these voices, you know? We have to transcend; this voice; and its influence. And then somehow you come away from its hold, you see? It’s still a play of Maya. Recently I have been sharing with you one of Saint Kabir’s songs… Hm? What does he say? “Maya, Maya… You are the great deceiver, Maya… Everyone you’ve trapped inside your net. And nobody recognizes you. But I know you. You must know, Maya.” Sometimes what Maya has spoken inside our ears, we have accepted too easily. Now we are protecting her voice inside, but she’s deceiving. And how can she deceive you? Because you don’t as yet recognize who you are. When you realize who you are, in the Truth, not just as an idea, not with an intellectual conviction, but [clenching fist] with direct experience, she will lose this influence over you. For this reason you came to satsang. You see? Where does Maya come from? I want to tell you something that might surprise you: Maya comes from God also. And Grace comes from God. Everything comes from God. All this is God’s play. Where do you come from? You also from God [sweet laughter, from audience too]. But you are not Maya. You see? You have to recognize: we put on this human suit, to… to play, and to experience. What I say sometimes, it’s like Consciousness –another name for God, you can say– creates the sense of a problem, or a challenge, in order to have the experience of transcending it. We have now the challenge to transcend all our conditioning. But not to be cynical about it, and not to curse anybody; but just to see it, and to feel, and to say, No, but that’s not true! So, what help do you have to do that? Because all the beings, we have all received conditioning. In the same way that all the beings living in the ocean are wet. All the beings who enter the manifestation, we are conditioned, you see? This body we need in order to have experience; this is an experience body. But the body is also experienced. We are not so only attached to the body, but to the life inside it. So something in this we have to overcome; we have to learn, and it’s time for us… Why you have come here? There’s seven and a half billion human beings alive currently on this planet. We are a little speck of them. Why you came here, you see? What selected you to come here, and put another one another place? We can never understand the ways of the Supreme. But you are here, and you are here for something. And because you have chosen Truth, most of you, then all the delusions are gonna come for you; the devil is going to come for you; because him you must overcome. And he doesn’t exist only on this side of the eyes; he lives also behind the eyes also. But you have an advantage; because you are already the Self. You see? Just you’re not aware of it yet. Just like someone can trick a naive person, but someone who is more clever, they cannot trick them. You have to be wise to overcome Maya’s tricks. Satsang is the place that is helping you; is reminding you who you are. When you forget your Self, Maya is strong. When you remember your Self, Maya does not exist. You came here now, and you’re feeling all… whatever… whatever is… has been undetected… the blind spots that have been existing in you, that you’re not aware of, they’re coming to the surface. Is bad or good? [Audience: “It’s good”] It’s good! Doesn’t feel good [laughter], but it is good, for the one who knows. Because you are Being-ness now, it’s becoming… it’s detoxing! OK? So all this is coming up; it wants to burp out what is not harmonious. Sometimes it feels like you are going to vomit out, and nobody enjoys a vomiting. We don’t enjoy when we know it’s going to happen, we don’t enjoy it when it’s happening, but we enjoy very much when it’s gone. You see? So sometimes there’s things coming up. And we have to see with each other, we have to tolerate…
[this part of a wonderful satsang]
transcribed by Leon
This life is…
This life is…
This life is a dream
This life is a dream
It’ll be over in a blink of an eye
Remember who you are
Remember what you are
Whose life is this?
Whose hands are these?
Whose voice is this?
What am I?
This life is a dream
It’ll be over in a blink of an eye
Remember who you are
Remember what you are
Om gam gana pataye namah
This life is beautiful
This life is horrible
This life is wonderful
And this life is just a dream
A dream made of love
Remember who you are
Remember what you are
You are before
Before these questions
Before the answer
You are before